Some of the best messages are delivered by well trained docents or even keepers with the elephants there versus in the education building. At Sedgwick County Zoo, we actually had I think the second education building dedicated totally to education was built in 1980. And I expanded it and more than doubled its size. And we were always constantly struggling with that issue, we brought animals a lot heavier into the inside educational aspect and built special facilities for the animals there as a separate standalone collection. And that was a philosophical change from Blakely. We had no animals in for outreach.
