The staff did not have access to the board or we knew the board at all. It was Blakely just basically handled the board himself and minimally at that. He was a very much old style of pretty much kept in the dark. And as a lot of people said, at times he would’ve liked to just shut the gates and just had his little private zoo there to himself to be totally honest with you. So I competed in the final interview and you know, it was one of those interviews, and I’d had some that I had thought I did well, and others I knew that I didn’t. And somewhere halfway through that interview, I can remember feeling I’ve got this. And I told him what I thought my dreams were for the zoo. And I can still remember the one question from the founding person at the zoo, Mary Lynn Priest.