‘Cos I was fascinated by necropsies and I learned years later, my dad used to cringe ‘cos he’s trying to save animals and I want to know what died so I can see what’s cut up that weekend. But afterwards, the last thing we’d do, Dr. Mann lived in an apartment building right next to the zoo and we’d walk over and talk to him. And he was a great guy. He was an interesting man. And most people don’t know, he was a circus fan too. And I even met Emmett Kelly over there, or the Emmett Kelly son. I’m not sure which one now, but he was a legend on himself. I know I’ve actually read quite a bit about him and I have his picture in my office along with Louis DiSabato and a picture of Blakely and Jane Goodall and I, the type of thing that you keep as memories, but the picture with Dr. Mann.