He always knew it was gonna have to be open to the public to a certain degree at some place in time. That was probably one of the most exciting things for him and actually was part of the cause of his early retirement because of the deer thing out where they had to euthanize some of the deer, the problem with infecting the Père David’s deer and Dylan Ripley got called on the carpet and this, that and the other. And it broke up the relationship between Dylan Ripley and my dad. Basically he was asked time to call it quits Dr. Reed. But it all stemmed from the Front Royal thing. But I think he loved zoos, lived and breathed it, and…