You know, he never had any problems because he got the tigers or any thing. I mean, he had some disagreements with (indistinct) in Michigan dealing with white tigers in later years. But they were still friends. I used that as it progressed and evolved and standards changed and so forth that these were genetic freaks and welfare issues. And I used my role as the son of my father to do everything I could to help discourage the show and display and the breeding of white tigers taking up space from critically endangered, Malayan and Sumatran and more tigers. And I think I actually got the point across to some of them. And I felt I was one of the two people who could say it as vocally as I did at some of these meetings, ‘cos I was the son of my father. Did your father, the pandas came to the National Zoo as a gift to the United States government.