And you can’t see what’s holding him in there and been successful breeding them and have babies there now. But it was my first design build ‘cos this guy wanted the money quick and he wanted babies. And all I could get was males. And I had a choice of 32 males and you know, we started with eight and I worked very diligently with the gorilla SSP and worked with the plans we built. The first major place that could hold a lot of male gorillas. We held nine males at one time and had a rotation system and they had an off exhibit display. They had an outside display and an inside display and sometimes we’d mix it, twice on a day occasionally. But most of the time it was on a daily basis they’d get moved to different places.
