But you know, they want to see you. I learned real quickly that it wasn’t good enough to be out in the zoo grounds after hours walking around. Your employees wanted to see you see them working ‘cos it also gave them a chance occasionally to dialogue with you. I can tell you as the assistant director, I knew everybody’s name. I knew their spouse’s name, I knew the kids. And I tried to do this all the way through. I’d go to the hospital when anybody was in the hospital. It got harder to do that as the director as the years went by and the staff grew and everything.