I thought that I wanted to be a veterinarian, probably a zoo veterinarian and quizzed out of some classes, but I got a D in trigonometry and that was the end of my veterinary career before it started. So I switched over to zoology and, you know, didn’t know for sure until I got that first job while I was waiting to go to graduate school. And I knew within days that this is what I wanted to do for sure. Tell me about your formal education. I went to Kansas State University in Manhattan, Kansas. I graduated in 1972. I knew I was gonna go to graduate school. And at that time, the nearest thing that I could find associated with zoos was at Texas Tech in the Department of Park Administration and Landscape Architecture.
