But it didn’t take very long. But Tom was watching me and he was fascinated. He says, “You’re doing this by yourself?” And I said, “Well, nobody else is helping me, so, yeah.” So he’d helped me. And then we started talking about training and reinforcing the animal and making sure that they understood, you know, use the whistle as a secondary reinforcer and then the animal goes, “Oh, well, I’m gonna get a primary reinforcement now.” And so that developed, and from that day on, I think there was a huge turn in the community of people that were training marine mammals at the time to all doing positive reinforcement. And everything that these animals are trained to do is based upon that paradigm and that theory. And I think a lot of zoo animals started to be trained that way also as the marine mammal trainers sort of went off into the zoo community and started using that idea to do that for husbandry and other behavior.
