Well, their conference was rough simply because the keynote speaker was the CEO from the Human Society talking to people as he would to a minion audience. And he reminded me of a car salesman or an evangelist pontificating on how well they’ve cared for animals. You know, they make over $200 million a year from the public by doing infomercials holding a dog with a bad eye or a bad ear. But they don’t take care of any animals at any shelters. Again, I mentioned earlier that they were fined $15 million for fraud. They spend $100 million of that money a year to raise that money and pay lots of lawyers to intervene in legislative activity. They are anti-animal, period. And PETA is worse.