And Murray was a marine mammal parasitologist. And once I met him and realized what the work he was doing, I said, “Well, let’s discover the life cycle of some of these other worms. Let’s figure out where they’re coming from.” So we would actually do that. We’d collect the worms, we’d collect the feces and figure out if we could get the transitional cycle of that worm and figure out what fish was eating the feces, how that went back and was eaten by the sea lion again. And that’s how we figured out the lungworm that California sea lions would get. And Murray really enjoyed the work out at Marineland because he got so many lifetime experiences, real experiences to actually prove that these worms were deleterious to the population and how they came about. And it’s just a fact of life that that’s why the populations were somewhat regulated by natural causes, if you wanna call parasitology natural. The questions gonna essentially be about filming at Marineland, TV shows.
