The business, I wouldn’t even say it’s a business, the art was evolving and the people that ignored the evolution of that were the people that ended up leaving. And they weren’t good animal people, really. The people that evolved would listen to each other and talk to each other and call up somebody at another place and say, “Hey, how did you do that?” And then they would exchange the information. But I found in the very beginning, in the zoo aquarium field, people were very quiet. They weren’t very good at exchanging information, which I was puzzled with in the beginning. What I found, though, is once you became good friends with someone, that information flowed very freely. So it was about partnerships, friendships in that you would share this information, and also going to the AZA or the IMATA or the IAAAM or one of the trade associations to learn more and share more. And the more you shared, the more you got.