Back man meaning surgery, I love surgery and enjoyed it. And it made more sense that I was interacting with clients out in front and the animal, the patients. And so some of those zest of, or the challenge, I guess, of practice diminished. And I got to thinking, “You know, “maybe I should think about applying for the zoo job.” And for, I’d say roughly two months maybe, I gave this some thought, and finally one day said to my wife and daughters, I had two girls.