Early on during my years we, of course, were fortunate to have an incredible creature, a lowland gorilla named Bushman at Lincoln Park Zoo in the Old Monkey House. And Bushman was one of two gorillas of his era back in the 30s and 40s that were in America. Ringling brothers had one named Gargantua and Bushman, and they were the two best known. At that time there were very few gorillas in captivity in the states. Bushman happened to be an unusual, fine specimen, 550 pounds give or take of big wondrous animal. And that was one of the, I guess, difficult medical issues we had, Wes Young was still there originally when Bushman got sick, how to treat Bushman. We had no way to get to him, no way to restrain him. We would have to figure out what we thought were clinical problems that Wes and I would discuss and agree on.