And he knew the area that he was very interested in, so Marlin and I had nothing but a comfortable working relationship. And as I say, I’ve been grateful to him for that opportunity to meet many, many wonderful people in the TV industry. And to this day, I felt very close to his widow. Unfortunately, I think in the last two years now, she’s had Alzheimer’s, and I’ve stopped calling her. But every two, three months I used to call Carol up and we would chat on the phone, and I always thought it was a wonderful relationship. I say this, not with any malice, but with just a personal feeling, I always thought she was twice the man Marlin was, she had an incredible marketing, public relations manner about her. She is a wonderful solid lady, and I even remember once she told me proudly that Marlin on safari would have two, three, four cameras dangling all over his shoulders and arms. And she had her little brownie, and she said, “Les, my brownie pictures “are just as good as Marlin’s.” And whether they were or not, that was beside the point.
