I learned the hard way about not to move a chair in the studio ’cause there was a certain union for that. And not to try and change a light somewhere, there was a union for that. Not to pick up the carrying case, and a lot of learning went on. But I enjoyed the stuff, to say that it wasn’t fun to do, it would be wrong. It was great fun, Ray was wonderful to work with. The zoo got a ton of good positive, I think PR from the standpoint that we try to slot it as an educational thing, not just a silly thing. And so television, unlike Marlin’s experiences, were a totally different kind of direction. Mine was always part-time and fun, and I enjoyed it and look back on it, and reflect that it was great.