It went on for, I don’t remember now, 12 to 15 years. And I’d be walking around the zoo, and kids would be following me, singing the theme song about green alligators, and long-necked geese and stuff like that. Ray remained part of Chicago an icon, he was also in to theater, in addition to the TV show, Ray was doing two, three times a year theater and other special things. And finally he retired, and they didn’t know what to do with me, so they asked me I’d go on “The Bozo Show.” And of course, I was unknowing at the time, I went down there and there were a couple of clowns, and I didn’t know who was Bozo. And there was another clown named Cookie, and so I started doing that show. I can’t remember now for sure, but I assume maybe once a week, and bringing some animals down there, and that went on for some years. So television had a major impact on, I think the public’s awareness of our zoo and our collection. I never pretended to be an actor, I had to join the union because if you’re on TV at X number of times a year, you had to join the union, and I didn’t know what it was all about.
