And I’d say, no, thank you. And happily, in retrospect, our local station, WGN in Chicago pursued the fact that they thought Lincoln Park, Chicago Zoo, Chicago TV Station that they’d like to try and start up some things. So I told them, “If you go down “and talk to the park commissioners, “and if it’s okay with them, “that then I would pursue the item with you.” And they did go down and happily the park people felt comfortable that I would not become a Marlin Perkins, which I never could be anyway, meaning a full-time TV person. And so that kind started, my recollection is it was a Saturday morning show, and I think it was pretty much a Farm in the Zoo show. I would bring down animals from the farm in the zoo to the studio, and the WGN broadcast studios were only about a 20-minute drive from Lincoln Park. So it was handy, put an animal in the carrying case and bring it down. I think I even had my own Collie dog on a leash, on some of the shows as quote, “The farm dog.” And lo and behold, there was a TV show in Chicago, a morning show from 7:00 to 8:00 AM, run by a man named Ray Rayner. And Ray Rayner had this incredible TV spot, five days a week, Monday through Friday, sorta sounded like a children’s show, but it was truly, I think a family show.
