Well, it certainly was a first for me and for the gorillas, but it also was a forerunner of other species. The SSP means Species Survival Plan. And what that means is that if, for example, you’ve got two gorillas, and Joe down the road got three, and someone else got two, and someone else has one. You’re not gonna have any great breeding potential with isolate animals scattered about the country. And so the feeling was that by putting together a group of people, and our SSP was composed, as I remember it of 10 representatives from 10 zoos that had gorillas. And the idea was that we would look at the collections of all of these as an inclusive kind of thing, that instead of thinking of Lincoln Park with its whatever number, and Brookfield Zoo whatever, and St Louis and so on. That we would say, well, in America, we’ve got 160 females, and 28 males, and two babies and whatever. And this group would once a year, sit down and spend two or three days looking at the total picture of the various gorillas in each institution and what the, some came from the wild, the founders stock, we called them.
