I think as any organization either grows or dies, AAZPA continued to grow, we involve more and more staff people. The group finally start splitting up into subgroups, you might say the original intent of the group was animal people. And the whole idea of AAZPA was a clearing house for the curatorial animal people, the ornithologists, the herpetologists, the mammalogists you name it. Finally, people realize that there’s more to running a zoo than just an animal collection. And that’s when we had the growth of marketing people and public relations people, education people, all these other subsets. And so the zoo vets, all of these were part of AAZPA, but they sort of started setting up their own little subset areas, and that was part of the continual growth. I look back on AAZPA and I have kind of even today, mixed feelings about it. I think it all of a sudden started to become a group unto itself.