So Frank enjoyed coming to the zoo, he liked his animals. He enabled us to go to Africa and bring back some of our gorillas, the babies, the foundation stock. He was probably without a doubt the number one person on the park commission who cared the most of the commissioners during my time there. Mr. Merrill Wriths was another commissioner who I think felt strongly about the Zoo, he lived on the north side. And Sydney was a person who’d stop in occasionally. A woman commissioner, one of the early women commissioners was Jean Foran. And her husband, Tom Foran, I think had been a state’s attorney in Chicago. And so there was that political connect to Mayor Daley.