And we had a nice little lunch and they showed me around their office, which was in the old Montgomery Ward Mail Order Building over on the near west side. And then I had sketches that the architects had made, and I said, “This is what we’re thinking of.” And again, I emphasized, “I’m not here to ask you for money, “I want your opinion.” Well, they said, “You know, we’re not really into gauging the ideas “and the tourist attractions here. “So what you need to do is go over and see Ernie Martin. “He’s really pushing Chicago tourism.” I said, “You know, I’ve met Arnie once, “but he doesn’t know me from (indistinct).” “Well, I’ll call Arnie for you?” So, Mickey turnaround, dial and he says, “I’ve got a guy over here from the Shedd Aquarium. “And they’re thinking about building such and such. “And I told him, you would be a good person to talk to.” “Sure, send them over.” So we wound up our meetings there. I thanked him for lunch, went downstairs, got in a cab. The cab driver had a Bob Collins, big orange cap on, I’ll never forget that.
