And then you always, you have in your mind, this zoo has a great staff potential. They have, because you see them at conferences. As I went to conferences, these young people are still doing that. And that’s how I would, when I’d get a request from them to be considered to come to San Antonio, I’d look at that and we’d discuss it with the curator if it was below the curatorial level for a keeper. And I remember getting an application from a fellow from the Buffalo Zoo, and I knew Clayton Freiheit when he was in Buffalo and I was in Rochester. Clayton was at our home every other weekend visiting and we’d sit and talk zoo for the whole weekend. And so this young man made an application and I looked at it and I thought, hey, this is pretty good. He had a good upbringing in Buffalo.
