In Rochester, we didn’t have a lot of research potential. However, we had a university that had some great students, zoologists and biologists, and they enjoyed the zoo. And I found myself enjoying having them come to the zoo. Some of them actually went into the zoo business. And the good name that comes to mind is Dennis Merritt. Dennis happened to be in Rochester about the time I was there. And he was just a young kid. And the first time I saw him, the first few times, I thought, hey, this kid’s he’s okay, but he sure is a bother.