So I had to cut down a little bit, but Johnny being from Nebraska, he had a basic interest in the natural world. And Johnny Carson’s talent was that he didn’t ever try to be funny. Johnny knew what television was all about. Some of the guys on now who I like a lot like Jay Leno. But Jay Leno, the producers and the directors have him. They think it’s funny to take a little wolf puppy and stick it in the face of the bandleader. Johnny would never do that. That’s not funny, that’s contrived.