But Kramer was sitting there wanting to do a talk show in his apartment, and they were at the restaurant and Jerry said, or rather Kramer said to Jerry, he said, “Jerry, my show is not going very well. “I think I’m gonna get Jim Fowler and his animals,” And Seinfield said, “Oh, you’re never gonna get Jim Fowler.” And so Kramer said, yeah. He said, “I practically raised his kids.” So my kids appreciated that. So I’m sitting there with a hawk on the fist.
