And Africa was sort of a jumping point when I came back from Africa and started doing The Today Show and had all the animals and things like that. It gave me the self-esteem to think that I could go to the Amazon, even though I never knew much about it. And I had encouragement from two people. I was in… Let’s see. Now, wait a minute. I had already done these studies on the harpy eagle before I did Wild Kingdom. But I had gone to the Field Museum in Chicago and talked the curator or birds, I think his name was O’Neil in those days.
