Well, I was in about 14 or 15. I think I’d gone to the zoo before that, because my parents were obviously zoo goers. And I remember the National Zoo very well. It had a lot of buildings at the zoo. In those days a lot of the zoological parks had a lot of structures and things like that. Now, I’m more interested in open areas and displaying nature, not just some animal that housed somewhere in a confinement. Now, when you could go on a school in Earlham College or before. Yeah.