And I used to go up into the mountains of Virginia, the Appalachians, and he would use me to go over the cliff to a peregrine falcon (indistinct) and film the chicks and things like that. But he was a real visionary. His name was John Hamlet. And so wait a minute. Now, I gotta get back on the question because I started rambling a little bit. The first zoo that I went to, okay. Yeah, the first zoo, he used to have a lot to do with the National Zoo. I remember one of the first times I went to the National Zoo, I was watching a rhino.
