Well, I think the most influential things that I was able to see that effected animals was the publications that I was able to be involved with. I was not comfortable writer, but I felt the need for such information to the accumulated, so I set about to do it. So getting that information out in the book form was important. The other thing is I was instrumental in developing a residency program, and it was the first one in any university setting for developing zoo veterinarians for about 10 years. And so contributing other people or to contributing people who contributed elsewhere was an important thing is my estimation. And then I also was also on the ground floor in developing the specialty, which is again, another instructional situation with people that were willing to extend themselves just a little bit more to learn more about the job that they were supposed to be doing anyway. So those things were the contributions that I was able to implement. And you mentioned the education.