Because I just did it. I integrated them by just doing it sometimes using the principle is better to do what you wanted to do and ask for forgiveness after you’ve done it, than to ask permission and be denied. So I worked with fish and game on their programs, we did a lot of work. I mentioned the work with elk. we did big horn sheep, netted them. I learned a lot of restraint check and I could participate in that because I knew something about it. And I just tried to open up my students to the concept of one medicine. I keep going back to that, but it was part of my philosophy, and I didn’t see anything different in the diseases of captive or wild animals, I just felt that I learned more about the biology of the animals by participating in those programs.