Well, Wes Mannion, who was with him, and now runs the whole thing was his, like his beyond buddy, like friend, even more than you and me, probably. Just, they lived together basically, from the time he was a little boy, both boys grew up. He was there with his boat out there, filming, and I think Benny was taking a break or something. And they’re out there filming the, I guess he had the camera or someone was filming him with the stingrays and stuff, where I’ve been exactly before filming. These are big stingrays, like twice as big as that rug you’re sitting on, the big ones. And I guess what happened from what I understand, ‘Cause I’ve never asked Terri, I’ve just gotten from good sources that worked for him, that he evidently was in shallow water, swam over the stingray like this.