’95, 2005. I said, “My God. You’re 40-something years old. “Of course you have grandkids.” But for me, he set me back. I said, “Jack, you’re old buddy.” Like, you, I didn’t know I’d been doing this stuff that long. I don’t even think about it. But think about this man coming, many people come up to me and send me letters now, saying that now their kids and their kids’ kids, had to watch the things we did.
