I was getting that way. I’m just by myself. I don’t know anybody other than Ted. And Ted said, “Okay, everything’s fine here, buddy. “we’re all gonna build the wilds, don’t worry.” And then we became friends. But at that first point, I was gonna knock him through the wall. Because he liked, he likes frogs and all that kind of stuff. And Ed and I got to be real close, but that just shows you. And then even at a conference after that, even a lot of them I’d go there.
