And so I was all excited. So, Mel Dodge said, “Jack do a program about the wilds “at the conference down there in New Orleans.” I said, “Mel, aint even been here this long. “My God, I’ve just been here six months. I can’t do that. “Maruska, and all these guys.” I said, “They know more about this than me, probably ’cause all Ohio zoos are involved, okay?” It was just not us. It was all four Ohio zoos. I go there and I get my little paper. Maruska comes up to me afterward, he said, “What do you know,” you know Ed.
