I’m sorry, Akron, I don’t even, the young guy who wrote no, you wouldn’t have, no, he was gone. And then finally Pat Simmons came in years ago, and she and I are very close. I’ve helped her with many fundraisers up there, but which I try and do by the way. I just got through with Brevard Zoo last Saturday night. Packed house. Oklahoma city. I helped him six months ago. I love doing that. Helping the zoos that are really progressing, you know, but back then it was hard, trust me, because I would go to the zoo conference, the AZA conference.
