Yeah, he was here. So this zoo was pouring out, Warren Thomas. He was here head of LA. All these guys started in Columbus at vet school. And some of them worked, even went around the country, to be the directors of the biggest zoos in the country. They didn’t do anything really wrong. They just ran the thing, like I guess it was being run. But then all of a sudden it took that slip there, for something about four or five years, where, there there wasn’t these great guys that had the vision.
