He says, “Jack, I know you’re there.” By the way, I was selling real estate too in Knoxville. My buddy that had helped me with the plane. He said, “Jack, let me help you keep you afloat here, “do this.” And so he caught me. He’d catch me all the time, reading animal books as well. I got my real estate license. I could sell anything. I mean, I tried, but I, you know, there wasn’t much for sale (laughs), but I did best I could do. And so I’d be reading these animal books, and then ’cause Julie was sick, so I was doing that kind of thing.