It’s the people and the visitor that suffer. The staff that suffer. The animals, yes, they may have mud, they may be lousy accommodations, but most of them look pretty healthy. I’ve never been to many zoos in this country where the animals just sit there, except roadside things, where they’re just sitting there dying. I’ve never seen that really, but I’ve seen other terrible things with the infrastructure. So when I go to a zoo myself, even back then I was taught. My dad said, “Jack.” I always learned this when a little boy. “Something can be old, but it can be cleaned.