He had the largest cylinder company for propane tanks in the world. Now he’s got 50 companies all over the world, but I went to see him in 1981. Our gorilla’s here at Columbus Zoo. I’m gonna flash forward here in a second if I could, ’cause you asked me about fundraising. Even in central Florida, I would do my fundraising things and the people that, you know, a board I, that little board I had, they’d send out all the pamphlets. I didn’t even know how to do all that stuff. I said, I need to have a pachyderm for an animal. I need to have a race.