I didn’t have anything to carry the bats in. So I took her overnight bag and punched holes in it for ventilation, put my own clothes in a knapsack, put the bats in that suitcase and I carried that under the seat and brought the bats back to St. Louis. And Marilyn has never forgiven me for ruining her overnight bag. That was my first trip. Then we had the opportunity to escort Zoo Friends’ sponsored safari. My first trip was to Botswana in 1976 and Marilyn went with me and we got to see African elephants, giraffes, rhino, elephant in the wild. Was a wonderful experience. I was lucky enough to escort a trip almost every year after that.