Well Howard Baer was a civic leader that was very powerful in the Republican circles and he had the dream about the Zoo Museum District and was always confidant of mine and a mentor. Had a good feel for all the public institutions in St. Louis. And the judge was well-connected in the Democratic machine. Was a judge, a lawyer before that and had been city counselor and advisor to Vierheller in Vierheller days. So he wrote the legislation. So it was Howard Baer and Judge McGuire that actually created the Zoo Museum District and planned it so that it went through the legislature and then through a public referendum. So they were very great advisors to me and supporters. Whenever I got in trouble with any of the other commissioners, they always came to my defense.