I made sure all my curators got to go to management school, take advantage of any HR training in the area that was available to them. There’s several private programs for executive training. And so I made sure that I surrounded myself with a capable staff and gave them the support. I didn’t tell ’em how to do it. I let ’em do what they did best and I gave them the support. So I think part of my success as director was that I had a great team that I helped develop, that I gave support to. And the people that ran the zoo when I was zoo director. I’ve retired 13 years.