But I did learn from everybody I ever worked under. Not only from those I worked under, I also learned from my fellow employees. I learned from Bob Fru. I learned from Jerry Lentz. I learned from Mike Fleig. Because when we were teaching classes, we’d get tired of teaching same class. So we’d switch and I’d teach the bird introduction or the mammal introduction and we all became much more versatile that way, got outside of our areas of expertise. So I was the zoo director then.