So I learned from every director that I worked under, but I still feel the best team is under the direction of a biologist, a naturalist, a zoologist who has in his culture the animals and the relationship with animals in the public, to be able to deal with the public and answer their questions about the animals. The same with the botanical garden. It’s hard for me to manage a botanical garden not run by a great botanist. Like our botanical garden in St. Louis is run by Peter Raven who’s a world-known botanist. He retired and they brought a world-known botanist from Ireland to take over his position. They have a businessman to run the business aspect of the garden. I feel the zoo is the same thing. It should be a scientific institution.