When Bob Briggs was director, he followed Bill Hoff. I was deputy director. But I also was the animal man because Bob Briggs was a marketing person, a former Post-Dispatch reporter, former photographer and had worked in public relations who knew nothing about animals. His only claim to fame is he helped sell the Zoo Museum District and they thought he would help raise the public image of the zoo. But I was allowed to run the animal collection, buy and sell the animals. I managed all the curators. I was in charge of maintenance. I was in charge of building the grounds.
