I have to look at my biography. I don’t remember what year. But probably in the late ’60s, ’68 maybe. Then I became general curator, deputy director. I was deputy director for some time. So when you were made assistant general curator, Marlin was still there. Yes, Marlin was still there when I was assistant general. Marlin was really the one that gave me a lot of the responsibility that Moody didn’t want, that Moody didn’t wanna do.