Well I was acting as education coordinator doing our teachers workshop. And Marlin came to me one day and said, “Now we’re goin’ to call you assistant curator and that does give you a little raise.” And so that was later of course because now I had a title. I got a title along with Jerry Lentz, Bob Fru and Mike Fleig also was promoted to assistant curator of birds. You know, more opportunity given a job of setting our diets. Marlin was a big trainer. I would say a trainer. He put the assistant curators all in charge of studying the zoo diets. The mammal, bird, reptile diets, determining what we were feeding our animals and then looking in the literature and in the published books. Management of mammals in captivity, what the diets were at the various zoos and compare their diets with what we were feeding and if we were doing the right thing and if we had any recommendations.