Well because he was out of town a lot, it was his intention to train a larger cadre of staff. That’s where he was training Bob Fru and Jerry Lentz and Mike Fleig and I to help Moody Lentz and Henry Sanders manage the zoo so that he could be gone and the zoo would carry on. Hattie Ettinger who was the administrative assistant to George Vierheller was also Marlin Perkins’ administrative assistant. She also was the PR marketing director, HR director. She did most of the hiring and most of the firing and she was kinda the strong arm for George Vierheller. And she was sort of that for Marlin too. But whenever Marlin was outta town, Henry Sanders and Hattie Ettinger did what they kinda wanted to do to run the zoo. So sometimes things slowed down when Marlin was gone.