Marlin Perkins and Carol would come out to the zoo at night and they’d see the light on in the kitchen of the reptile house. And they would come in. And when they’d see us takin’ care of these animals, they always had advice on how to clean the nipples properly and how to clean the baby bottles and make sure we’re sterilizing proper. Well since I had already helped raise children at home, I had a lot of experience. So I was given a lot of opportunity to help take care of the baby animals. And that also gave me extra exposure to both Marlin and Carol.